SusanPassLivingston
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Genealogy - 2007/12/16 23:38
Is anyone else out there interested in genealogy? Anyone have Mr. Southerland and have to do it as a project and never get over it like me?
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GailHullingsCobleigh
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 10:44
I'm not exactly a genealogy buff, but just recently became interested in what you can find out for free on the internet. This was sort of a combination of a genealogy mystery I'd been reading, combined with Jay's people search abilities...funny how things can set you off in a certain direction. I think Mrs. McSwain, aforementioned 7th grade teacher from Rehoboth was in the mix, too. (That makes this website thought-provoking and educational -- as long as I can say that, I'll keep coming back!)
Over the years, my mother-in-law blessed us with reams of info about the Cobleigh and Brooks side of Hank's pedigree. I really regret that she never got to use the internet...she did things the old way, in cemeteries and dusty libraries. She did use a word processor to set the stories down. Hank's sister has even taken the search back to New England, and the old sod.
After researching the Hullings name a few weeks ago (we all lived in the same county in NJ in 1840 or so) I contacted my mother, who has family trees that were sent to her several years ago by a pioneer computer genealogist. She has found the papers, which include photos where available, and I plan to look them over at Christmastime. Maybe go from there.
My sister and I have tried to chronicle some of the personal stories behind the names in our family tree. Almost all of our aunts, uncles and cousins still live in the same area we moved from in 1960, but we are losing our parents' generation (my dad is gone) and the stories are going with them.
I think family history is interesting...especially if you have an interesting family!
Hank and I are listed in the Gwinnett Historical Society's book of original families. This was a great boon to us in our anti-development activism days! Great-great-somebody (Philip Alston Brooks) came here in the mid-1800s with the Army to drive the Cherokees to Oklahoma. He decided he didn't like the job, quit and lived in what would become Dacula, until he died in the The War. We are surrounded by native Cherokee burial sites that date far before that period.
I'd be happy to get some tips on free searches and websites that are worthwhile...googling is fun...advanced searches are where it's at, hmmm?
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SusanPassLivingston
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 11:37
My best attribute is that PASS is on the Liberty Bell and the Bee Gee's mother was a PASS. The old CEO of Coca Cola was a Pass Descedant to. I think John Ritter may have had some ties to the PASS family. I found out that my best friend Karen Fortner is tenth cousins to my husband which makes our kids distant cousins. Now I can call her family. The Pass family was fun to do because we were all related and everyone wants to know how they link up to the guy that recast the liberty bell and no one can quite do that..they just know that their ancestors told them they were related.
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GailHullingsCobleigh
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 11:55
 Cobleigh family brags:
Mayor of London, 1500 something, was a Cobleigh.
There's a church in England somewhere with Henry and Alice Cobleigh buried in the floor (Hank's parents were Henry and Alyce). Hank's sister went there a year ago, and was the first living Cobleigh the residents had met.
There's a place in NH called Cobleigh Nob (the name means hump in a meadow!), as well as a Cobley Nob just outside Gatlinburg, TN.
There's a famous Cobleigh minister and founder of a seminary in TN, buried in Oakland Cemetery (late 1800's?), where Hank's parents are also interred. (Look for the phallic Cobleigh monument over by the MARTA station, and be sure to have lunch at Six Feet Under while you're there!)
And on his mother's mother's side (the Stephensons) is the guy who first discovered gold in Georgia -- there's a plaque to this Stephenson in Dahlonega.
In the Hullings family, we have more infamous relatives...bookleggers, bookies, brewers, bartenders...and stories about mobsters like Harry the Hat. I guess it's the Jersey thing! 
But if you ever wondered why NJ is called the Garden State, I guess my mom's family -- all farmers -- helped give it that name.  Corn, tomatoes and cows! Jersey may smell like exhaust these days, but it used to smell like a dairy farm...
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 12:16
A claim to fame (or infamy) on my wife's side of the family is that one ancestor by way of her maternal grandmother was a guy named William Tecumseh Sherman.
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SusanPassLivingston
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 12:18
Kewl!
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GailHullingsCobleigh
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 12:29
You know, I wouldn't have told that, Ricky -- and I'm from New Jersey! 
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 13:43
It's with some reservation that I disclose that. After all, I am a proud native Atlantan born right here in downtown Atlanta just a couple of blocks from where I now work. (That was way back when St. Joseph's Hospital was downtown on about the same piece of dirt where the Marriott Marquis now stands.)
Anyway, having read a lot about Sherman, especially since learning of my native Floridian wife's ancestry some years ago, I've come to appreciate him as a pretty decent guy who did what he thought he had to do to hasten the conclusion of a very ugly and costly war.
His army destroyed a lot of property in Atlanta and elsewhere on its march to Savannah, but they tried to spare lives and were largely successful in doing that. Of course there were sad exceptions, and for that and the burning he will always be hated by many. But read sometime what was said of him later in life by some noteworthy Southerners including some of the Generals of the Confederacy. Interesting stuff.
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 13:43
But enough on Sherman. It's also true that the two statues in the National Statuary Hall of the U.S. Capitol (each state has two statues representing famous people) from the State of Florida were sculpted by C.A. Pillars, my wife's maternal grandfather.
As for my side of the family, hmmmm..... That's where I really get reluctant to say anything.
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 14:00
Ricky, I must say that this is the most thought-provoking post we've seen in quite so time...sort of leaves things wide open for interpretation...
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 14:05
I like you, Gail. You're funny! I wish you and Hank had been at the reunion! I haven't seen him in decades, since just before Sherman came to town!!
(Gail was referring to the fact that my previous post had first shown up as a large, blank space, i.e., no words or anything. Thus, as she said, thought provoking and open for interpretation. Indeed it was!)
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SusanPassLivingston
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 14:14
OHHHHHHH! Sherman, he burned Atlanta didnt he? I am kinda slow. Even though my ancestor stopped in Chattanooga and thats where I am from...I didnt quite take that in right away...lol...ok I guess something good came out of it...
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 14:29
Well I am going to jump in here with one just for Rick: My maternal side of the family, from Virginia, was responsible for Judge Charles Lynch. You guessed it: the lynch mob (just kiddin' fella)
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 14:49
Susan, really, were you passing notes or napping during history class?
As for the statues, I'm much more impressed that Ricky's related to the sculptor than I would be if he were related to any of the famous people on display...
And a little tidbit from Gail's Travelogue...Madison, GA (the town Sherman passed by, it was so beautiful) is a great place to spend the day. I-20 east. Forget the potpourri shops -- have lunch at that great place on the corner with the tables outside (Chopstix? hard to miss, small town). Great draft selection, I recommend the club sandwich. Then, you can take a little nap at the local park, or head right on out for an easy (downright level) bike tour of a really unique southern town. The bike gets you up close and personal, and makes it possible to do every back road and alley, taking in the antebellum homes, complete with stables, kennels, and roaming deer.
Might want to wait until about the first week in April, though. 
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Re:Genealogy - 2007/12/17 16:48
Susan
I saw Karen Fortners name in your post. I remember her and about 15 years ago I ran into her brother Marty. I sold him some auto insurance and when he came in to sign the papers we finally figured out who we were. Wow!
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