Tomjakes
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/21 17:16
HAIL YEAH !!!!!
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MonaPayne
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/21 17:24
Easier said that done, TJ - but thanks for the advice.
Quittin' partner available, here. You know where to find me! 
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SusieMartin80
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/21 18:26
I have never smoked in my life...never even TRIED one, but my first husband smoked 3.5 packs a day. When I left him, I actually went through withdrawal! I got jittery and all of that! I can't imagine how tough it must be to quit! Congratulations to those who are succeeding everyday! Good luck to each and every one of you that fights it everyday!
~~ Dragon #9 Susie
It's never too late to have a happy childhood, but the second one is up to you and no one else.
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Blondean
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/21 22:08
 Susie, I am sorry that you had to go through that.
Mona, I called my doctor's office and talked to the nurse
today, and she said that the shot is not FDA approved and
that no one knows what is in the shot. ( I don't care what
is in the shot, if it works and I can get it free.) This
lady at work, said that her sister took the shot 2 years
ago, and just stopped. She did not gain wieght or anything.
The nurse told me that there is a drug called Chantix that works.
You start out with a 7 day starter kit, and this usually
is enough to make most people stop. It probably cost about
70 bucks, like most of the other drugs that are supposed
to work. That is astronomical to me. I think afflicted
thoughts like, I could buy 3 cartons of cigerettes for that.
I smoke about 10 cigerrets a day. I don't see how people
smoke 2 to 3 packs a day, unless they have a death wish.
I go to the doctor on Augest 19th. We can quit together if
you wish and anyone else that want to join us would be
welcome. We could have our own support group going. I have
always heard that, if you don't have that first ciggerette in
the morning that it is easier not to smoke the whole day.
Lets just do it. 
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Doug72
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 05:05
Nicotine is a very powerful drug. I will not go into the why's and where this is created now.
The biggest problem with nicotine is how easily you become dependent on smoking. Nicotine meets both the psychological and physiological measures of addiction:
What is Nicotine?
Nicotine (C10H14N2) is a naturally occurring liquid alkaloid. An alkaloid is an organic compound made out of carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen and sometimes oxygen. These chemicals have potent effects on the human body.
The most common (and the most expedient way) to get nicotine and other drugs into your bloodstream is through inhalation -- by smoking it. Your lungs are lined by millions of alveoli, the tiny air sacs where gas exchange occurs. These alveoli provide an enormous surface area -- 90 times greater than that of your skin -- and thus provide ample access for nicotine and other compounds. Once in your bloodstream, nicotine flows almost immediately to your brain. Although nicotine takes a lot of different actions throughout your body, what it does in the brain is responsible for both the good feelings you get from smoking, as well as the irritability you feel if you try to quit (see the section on addiction and withdrawal for details). Within 10 to 15 seconds of inhaling, most smokers are in the throes of nicotine's effects.
Your brain is the key player in nicotine's action. Like a computer, your brain processes, stores and uses information. In a computer, information travels in the form of electricity moving through wires; information transfer is a binary process, with switches being either "on" or "off." In your brain, neurons are the cells that transfer and integrate information. Each neuron has thousands of inputs from other neurons throughout the brain. Each of these signals is included in the calculation of whether or not the neuron will pass the signal it receives on to other neurons in the pathway.
Addiction and Withdrawal
Nicotine's effects are short-lived, lasting only 40 minutes to a couple of hours. This leads people to smoke or chew tobacco periodically throughout the day to dose themselves with nicotine. Add to this the fact that you can become tolerant to nicotine's effects -- you need to use more and more nicotine to reach the same degree of stimulation or relaxation -- and you can see how people would quickly move from smoking one cigarette to a pack a day habit.
What happens when smokers abruptly stop using nicotine? While you're using nicotine-containing products, your body adapts the way it works to compensate for the effects of the nicotine. For example, neurons in your brain might increase or decrease the number of receptors or the amount of different neurotransmitters affected by the presence of nicotine. When you no longer have nicotine in your body, these physiological adaptations for nicotine remain. The net result is that your body can't function the same way in the absence of the drug as it did before, at least in the short term. People trying to quit nicotine experience this as:
Irritability
Anxiety
Depression
Craving for nicotine
Over a period of about a month, these symptoms and the physiological changes subside. But for many smokers, even a day without nicotine is excruciating. Every year, millions of people try to break the nicotine habit; only 10 percent of them succeed. Most people throw in the towel after less than a week of trying, because the way that nicotine rewires the reward system in the brain makes nicotine's pull irresistible.
Robin & Mona when you make you decision to quit I would be more than happy to help you and let you know what worked for me.
Just a thought- Why would you take a drug to beat a drug?
31/2 packs a day was not a death wish, it's an addiction.
cigarette free for over 20yrs!!
Doug72
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Blondean
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 05:47
Thank you Doug, I know you are right. I just did some research
on the shot, and the side effects are horrendous. Coma, heart
attack, blurred vision, and other stuff. I know that it has to
be a mind over matter. I have heard
someone say that with addicts of all kinds, that after the
substance (whatever it may be) is out of your system, that your
brain kicks in and makes you feel that you have to have it. I guess
that is why I always got so weak as far as will power. I would
welcome your help, Doug. I have said that smoking has been one of my
few pleasures in life, but I know that this is a false and it is
time to cowboy up and really get serious about stopping for good.
I also want to say that the thing I said about 2-3 packs a day was a
stupid thing to say. Sorry, but I also lied about not smoking in my
house, because on the extremely cold days I stand over my down draft
and I smoke in my car with the window down.
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Elaine74
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 07:30
Robin and Mona
Once you truly make that choice to quit, you can do it on your own, believe me....Just like Doug said, and if anybody can quit a 3 1/2 pack a day habit like he did, there is hope for all.........I agree with him, no drugs is better.....Cold Turkey!!!!!
But if you need help, my brother did have good success with the pill, he took it for about 1 month and then no more, he has been quit now for 6 months, I am so proud of him.
But you have to make that choice in your heart!!!!
Be glad to help any way I can. So you have a really good support group here when your ready.
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MeTolly6
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 10:05
Morning All,
Seems like the biggest part is the desire to actually quit. I tried about a half dozen times. The last time and this time i used Zyban with the patches. I was a 3 pack kinda guy. Biggest thing for me is my hands, i have to be doing something. I came off the zyban after about a month and the patches after about 2 months. Since i had failed so many times the Nurse at our Hospital made exceptions for me. Sad when your a regular at the smoking cessation class. It was a military hosipital and they have a huge push for smoking cessation. Several other long term smokers i know have quit in the last couple of years. All boils down to finding what works for you. I agree with Marshalls comments a few days ago i think i will always want one. One of my best freinds now was with me when i quit and on day two we were in Montana on a beautiful crisp morning outside having coffee. He looks over and says "wouldn't ya just love one smoke right now" Hey with friends like that....
Their will be pain and misery involved but it does go away. If i can help just drop a note.
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Lishy
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 10:30
Well, if those antismoking shots are from China, you can bet they have lead in them. Anywho, my son is in Denali, Alaska for the summer and he said cigs cost $8.00 a pack!
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MonaPayne
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 14:12
Okay, Robin!!! August 19th is the target date!
We're gonna kick this thing!!!!
And many thanks to Elaine for getting this ball rolling and to everyone else for backing us up and encouraging us!
I figure I'll be saving about $150 a month!
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funwich
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 18:29
Ok, you two just about have me convinced to try also. I've been thinking about it for a while and have quit for as long as 9 months at a time but I always seem to pick them back up. Now that all my kids are out of the house (at least for the time being!) it's probably time to quit again. And I feel really bad because everytime I quit before Greg didn't and when he finally did I didn't. He didn't smoke for a little over 9 years and has picked them up again. Maybe we can work on it together with you all.
Rena
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Juliedoe
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/22 19:31
Hey you! Stop that smoking!
Don't make me show you the wrong end of my Chuck Norris Round house kick!
Really--just stop! I mean it.
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Elaine74
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/23 11:20
YOU GO GIRLS!!!!!!
It will save you lot of money!!!!!!!
And believe me you will have alot more time on your hands also!!!!!
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BonnyP79
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/23 13:18
I never smoked in High School so most of you don't even know I was a smoker. I started smoking when I was 19 or 20 years old. I smoked for 20 years and only stopped when I was pregnant with my kids. I went right back to smoking after the kids were born. I stopped 7 years ago in July of 2001. I too went 'cold turkey.' My husband still smokes. He's been smoking the whole time we've been together but because of my strong will-power his smoking does not tempt me to want to smoke again.
If you're trying to quit smoking, first advise I have is 'DON'T SMOKE IN THE HOUSE.' If you stop doing that first and have to smoke outside, it's a great 'first step' to take.
Good luck to anyone who is trying to stop smoking. It is well worth the effort.
Bonny
class of '79
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MonaPayne
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Re:Smoking - 2008/05/23 18:16
Congratulations Bonny - I'm proud of you.
Rena, Greg & Robin -- 8/19 is a date, right? We WILL do this thing ~~ we will practice not smoking until we get it right!!!!
DEFEAT IS NOT AN OPTION HERE ...
As much as I hate to see people get put out of work, let's bankrupt Phillip Morris and the rest of the tobacco companies.
Folks, please keep the successful quittin' stories coming ... it adds to the incentive!
M
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